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…get started on this talk.
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Katik, uh, nahoyaami mook kommankaha̱ naksok
Tell us about who
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chimpichootoot, chimaapoot sobbaichiwaika̱ onkal, kaamiik
your mom, grandma, all the way to what you remember.
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Ai, ya, himaak, mooliip, staththahaalon staththalin, ya, uh
Ok, then, I will start first
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akko, ya komawochooba, mook, ya, mikko took, ya, koasaatifa’ iisaak ,mook, kaamii, ya,
where our great grandfather, who was the chief of the Coushatta
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chaafosi yaamiima, maafon ontilihchom, kaamiskan, mok, naho, uh,
and he too was like the _____________and I come from there, therefore,
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koholchifo choobap, hoammanka̱ anap, nahon, uh, Ahbooton hokahchok,
that’s where they tell me our old name was Ahbi
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aabip, ya, naho, icho akfakcho yaami
and Ahbi is the deer skin,
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hothaalit stiisat, ya, chostathi hotalibooliiyaamiima.
where they scrape, the buckskin that they make.
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Ai, kaamis Abbey-hkak maafon [ontihchok ommi̱]
Yes, so is that where Abbey comes from?
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Ai, Abbey-hkak maafon ontihchik, kaamis
Yes, that’s where Abbey comes from.
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Naason iskaasa̱, Ahbi?
What did you say, Ahbi?
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Ahbi̱, ahbihchi.
Ahbi.
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Icho, icho affakcho ahbi̱, naho, ya, ohya̱, thahlit, nahot anooliifookok,
The deer, the deer hide, when they finish scraping it,
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ohya̱ yabohliichit anooliifook, naho, ohya̱ mook ahbihchi, hookahchi, kaamiskan mook,
they soften it and that’s what they say ahbi is and so therefore
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kosno koholchifo, mook, maafon ontihchommiip, mook, naho, uh, kaamiskan…
that’s where our name comes from and so….
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Mon asilhachiliba̱a̱no̱ mon, maamin nahobiinok, alahkak, naho,
I’ve always asked about that and others,
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uh, anthropologist-kayaamii yomahli̱ onkal, kaamik
even some of the anthropologists that go around
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iibi kaahaafot stilmaakahchok kaahamaamit stiisan haalolihchok, katik,
would say iibi and I would hear something like that
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mokkohchootommo̱ aalolik, anap.
but I really didn’t think that was it.
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Ai, kosnap, icho affakcho, ahbihchi, kaamiskan ahbok,
Yes, we would scrape the deer hide
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Just leave it on him. Yeah.
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ahbok mok, stilmaahilkatoliyan, mok tatkak ilaachiifookok mok
and that name came from that, but when the white people came
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kanoochit honahotikkoofook[ok] piila abboh hokonaahoton hookahchok, kaamis mon,
they didn’t pronounce it right and made it to Abbey
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kaiskan [kaamiskan] ya, uh, Lily, Lily chobasiikittap, ya chokkoolikittap,
and so when Lily, one of the elders that was still living,
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mok, ahbon ilihochiifookanaamit, kaamiskan mok,
she would still call herself Ahbi, therefore,
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maaloolihchok kaamiskan map, kain, kainst stanhommankabaanoolit, kain, ya, aapo mok,
it is the right way to say it and that how they used to tell me and even my grandma,
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Louisiana fiina maalon, ilmaakat tathopohlit, ilmaakat, nakson ilmaakatoot chasobailostikko̱,
they came through Louisiana and I really don’t know exactly where about
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katik, mafiinon tathopohlit ilmaakatok ommihchok, Louisiana-fa̱
but they came through somewhere around there in Louisiana.
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Ai.
Yes.
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Kain [Kamik] yaalon iitihsok, kain [kaamik] mok
Then we moved here.
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Alahka mook, il-last name-kayaami naahop,
The last names of all the others,
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naasok maan naaholii at-homma̱ stonahochiifok stilmaakatoyaami̱?
what other last names are there that the Indians are named after?
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Chasobaiko̱, mon
I don’t know.
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Maththiimaam[in] sobaikahchok, sobaikahchotommo̱ aalolok onkal.
That’s the only thing that shows, that probably shows that I can think of.
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Obe-ma, kaamimaai…
What about the name Obe?
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Old Blue Eye-kooliimahchok, map.
I think that’s Old Blue Eye.
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Ai, hookaak, Obe-k Old Blue Eye-kon
Yes, they said that Obe is Old Blue Eye.
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Ai, Oakdale-kafiinamahchon Chahtok iisahchootok,
Yes, there was some Choctaws that lived around Oakdale
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Old Blue Eye-kootoolik il-last name-kak, katik
whose last name was Old Bue Eye
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piila O.B.E-ka nahok, Obe-hkon talibooton ommiimahchok
but they had changed it to Obe.
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kamiichit hoimathahkiichit stamaakaak mon,
They keep changing
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kain hasaika̱a̱hossok kaamiimon,
a lot like that
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katik immaayap chasobaitikko̱ maathon
but I don’t know too much which ones.
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Kaamis maamin chimayiksap naasok ommi̱, hinaap?
So what is your clan?
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Anap, Nokkok om.
Me, it’s Beaver.
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Nokko̱? Ai, antaatak
Beaver? Yes, my dad
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Kawaknason.
is Bobcat.
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Anok maalok om, antaatap Nokkooliikon,
Mine is the same, my father is Beaver,
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ampichip nahokom, Kawaknasok.
my mom is Bobcat.
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Kaami̱? Ai.
Really? Yes.
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Ehh, chahalki mook, Kawaknasi maalok ommo, kaamis achachoski mook Kawaknasok om.
Yes, my wife is Bobcat too, so my kids are Bobcat.
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Oh, ai. Hasaika̱a̱hossooliki̱, kawaknasik? Ai.
Oh, yes, did there used to be a lot of Bobcats? Yes.
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Hinaap naksofa̱ immaayooli̱ aalolihchok, Louisiana-fap.
Now I wonder which ones have the most in Louisiana
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Hasaikat, hasaikaayalihchok, hinaap, naho.
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Nahoyaamiibiinok icho yaamiibiinok
and, for instance, even like Deer is a lot now.
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Icho mok, hasaikahchooto̱?
Are there a lot of Deer?
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Hasaikat athi̱i̱yafiinoolihchok
It seems to be getting a lot now.
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Ai, Nokko mok, kosnok hasaikatoskap, saamo̱ himayaamiip
Yes, even Beaver used to be a lot and now I wonder how it is.
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saamo, mon, naho, mon, ohya̱ hotoliinalao̱ kaahalit
I wonder how it is and I had said we will count
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nampalpiisamaami̱ ilhichaahiik saam– sobbaihilaiskan
to see how many there are so we’ll know.
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Ai, kain yaalon illak, kain, ihoocho̱, uh,
Yes, I came here and it’s been a while
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nampoffiinoto̱, naho, maamok wachiinat staasat innaathiikalito̱.
about, like, I was adding English when I talk.
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Ai, sankos katikom
Yes, it’s okay.
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maan seven-kafiinat, nine-kafiinotommo̱, kaint eight, nine years old
I was about seven or nine, maybe eight or nine years old.
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Sobbailil yaafon school-kat istaskahchooliki̱, Aaron-koot, isnoot Anook.
I remember y’all used to go to school back home, Aaron and you. Me, too.
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Denny chihochifhilihchooliki̱.
We used to call you Denny.
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Denny!
Denny!
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Dano-kak iilaak mon, anaththokom Denip kaahalihchok. Yaalimok Denny chaffak hochiifon aata mon.
Dano would come here and I would tell him I’m the only Denny here.
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Kaamik maan, naho̱, uh,
Then
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akkofa̱ Leeds Memorial Indian School-kafa̱ mon aayalihchoolik maan.
I used to attend over there at the Leeds Memorial Indian School.
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Ai, sobbailil, mon
Yes, I remember that.
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Ai, naho stachakkit taasat, kaamis, hasaikahchon aataasat aayalit,
Yes, my brother and I were with a lot of them
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kaamiimootok mon, yaali̱ illato mon,
and then we came here
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uh, iitistilkan ihohchak kaamik.
and stayed here a long time.
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Log cabin-kason himaak illaap istilkak.
When we first came here, we stayed in a log cabin.
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Oh, log cabin-kon.
Oh, in a long cabin?
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Ai, Abraham Lincoln-kayaamin.
Yes, like Abraham Lincoln.
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Maamok school-kalihchootok, kerosene lattern-kon.
Then when I went to school, we used a kerosene lattern.
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Mantik ihoochakittap olilyaamaamit akka̱hilihchooliki̱, naho, electricity iksoskan. Uh-huh.
But a long time ago a lot of us would do that since there wasn’t any electricity. Uh-huh.
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Kosnok immankaliis yon olintiifookon, nahobiinok, iisafaabiinok, okhichak komiksookan, nahot
I was telling him when we was coming that even at our house since we didn’t have doors,
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hisaakoot maatataklit…
we would hang blankets…
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Ai, tapachka ma̱choot.
Yes, like the quilts.
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Tapachkoot stataklit, stokbahlit kamiichilkahchoolik, kahhalok immankalin,
we’d hang quilts to cover the doors and that’s what I was telling him
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aiyinkoomaamiis mon
and he didn’t believe me.
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Katik mon..
But that…
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Nahoyaami̱ iskaasaayaamit chimpichi yaamik, uh, talwat olaachihchootooliskan,
Like what you were saying, your mom, uh, would sing and play music,
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naasoot map sobbaichihchooto̱, maafap?
what do you remember about that?
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Naho, map, ya, hasaikahchok hotalwahchooto̱ kaahahchonkat ya Louisiana-fa iisap,
Like he said there was a lot from Louisiana that sang
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kaamiiyon, yaali̱, ilaachiikok, yaafa̱ Louisiana-fa iisamok, uh, hotalwa̱ isto̱ katikap
but now they came here that were from Louisiana, uh, they used to sing from there,
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yaali̱ ilaachiifookon,
but when they came here,
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nampotikkossok hotalwak yamahto kaahat ya Charlie Boatman mamok, ponnafiina̱ mootootommo̱ katik ya
a few of them went around singing and Charlie Boatman was probably the best one
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talwa mok ya ponnafiinap maththon hotalwaachit, kamiichihchooto̱ kaamiskan,
but they would have the best ones sing
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naho ya Charlie Boatman ya Kowassaati yaamiifa̱ ya stimponnato̱ mon yaali stiilok, nahhon, naho̱,
and so since Charlie Boatman learned from the Coushattas, he brought it here
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ammaamak mon astimponnatok ommihchok, ya.
and that’s where my mom learned from.
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Naksok maan hotalwa̱ chasobaikotikap Charlie Boatman maththip sobailil kaamik
I don’t know who else sang–I only remember Charlie Boatman
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akkon stimponnan maan Waltak maan ponnapalammootoolimpahchok kaami
and then there was Walter, who was one of the best ones, too.
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Tape-kafap mat—mattalwat nakaathati̱ Walter T-kak.
I heard Walter T on the tape singing.
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Ai, Walter chooba̱ onkal. Ai, mon onkal, Waltak.
Yes, I mean the older Walter. Yes, I mean Walter.
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Ai, kaamik, naho̱, uh, kaamii stiisa̱
Yes, then they had that
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ya himaak, himaak ilaachiifookap, naho’,
and when I first came here, uh,
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uh, ya talilwa maami̱, yok, yaali iisak,
even the singing, the people that’s here,
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albamaha iisak, mon,
the Alabamas that are here
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ya, talwa, mok missionary ma̱hchok ilaachit, ohyak convert-kat anoslin ommito, ya hoakiiloofookon,
were probably converted by the missionaries that arrived here and so they didn’t like that
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kotha, ya, midway-kafa̱ istilkaap
and so we would go to midway,
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oolanhayon stamaakat obaaliifiinan onthaakok, lommit
way in the back of the woods
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talwat istilkahchoolik kaahahchonkat mon.
where they can’t see us and sing.
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Kaamik ya, uh, hobitlit, hotalwat, kaamikok kotha obaalipilyon stamaakat.
Then they would go way back and dance and sing.
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Mootohok nahomahchoot ya iisa bikkoot, amaapo imiisa bikkosi mok,
And then in front of houses, in front of my grandma’s house,
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kapachi ma̱hchooton ohyak hotoolit.
they would play stick ball.
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ya, reservasi hayop hotookotik achon askahkat, ya,
They didn’t have to play inside the reservation, they would go outside it
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Kosnok renegade-kamoot istilkatootommo̱.
and we were probably like renegades.
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Kaamiikan mon, hotooliton onkat mon, hotalwat, hobitlit,
So they played ball, sang, danced
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kaamiimon, ammaamak mon stimponnatok mon,
and then my mom had learned from that
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anok stamponnachiibannan anok ya,
and wanted to teach me
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naasi inwaliikat aliiyamoono̱ kaami mon, stinchasobaiko̱.
and I ran from her and now I didn’t learn anything.
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Himaayaami stinchasobaito̱ aalolihchok.
Now I think I should have learned.
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Kaamiik, amaapo mok ya ahissimaami, aksikchima̱hchoot, o̱hya anok achakkit aayat wihlilihchoolik kaamiskan mon.
Then I would go with my grandma and look for roots for medicine.
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kaamin nas-hasaikaayaalan sobbaililihchok, katikaap
So I know a lot of that but…